Bungi Bill

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  More WT Propaganda: Low Paying Jobs are OK for Family Heads. Just "Don't Miss the Meetings!"

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  god, evidently, wants you to be poor: .

  a newly baptized brother is married, and he and his wife have three small children.

  one day, a workmate suggested that he and the brother move to another company that paid a higher wage and provided more benefits.

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  Bungi Bill

  Billy the Bethelite,

  Regular reading of the Awake & Watchtower magazines would qualify you for at least one university degree:

  - a BS from Tasmania's University of Lower Crackpot.

  (Except in this case, "BS" means "Bachelor of Stupidity"!)

  Bill.
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  C,O's,D,O's from down under...who remembers??

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wolford and betty john,nice loveing couple,always loved children.. arther and tinnie roderson, nice couple he passed away some years ago too young from cancer.. wiakato and hine gray couldn't ask for better people.. jack teesie ..single guy would never go to a single sisters place for dinner even if she had children apperantly a bad look.. joe sleighman and wife nice couple were d.o's leaft and joined our side.. sandy pannell and wife...he reminded me of bill clinton always love to look down from the stage and wave his left finger at the congro....never liked him.. han's hubler,nuff said has been a few threads started about him.. there is many more.. karter..

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  Bungi Bill

  Of all the COs, how could anybody fail to remember "Cyclone Rex" Manwaring!

  He struck our congregation (Newmarket, in Brisbane) in mid-1976, when the disappointment of 1975 had caused the "unthinkable"

  i.e. the congregation's average hours had fallen well below the magical figure of ten per month.

  From him, we certainly heard a lot about "hours", and his favorite expression was that if we were not, in effect "persecuting" ourselves in our service, we were not doing our job properly!

  With "Cyclone Rex" weilding the horsewhip, the congregation's hours did improve. However, in the process, he made himself extremely unpopular - to the point that nobody would invite he or his wife for a meal. The then Service Overseer had to have that "priviledge" all on his own!

  Others here have noted Manwaring's rudeness of manner. I certainly second that one!

  By contrast, the previous CO to thast circuit was a Geoff Slarke, who was of a totally different cut to "Cyclone Rex."

  Talking of contrasts, do any in NZ still remember Don Malpasse (Gilead Graduate of 1973 - then CO, DO and finally Branch Overseer in New Zealand )? He, too, was cut out of the completly opposite material to Rex Manwaring!

  Bill.
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  Why do Jehovah's Witnesses keep track of field service hours?

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i understand that they claim to have the responsibility to preach to every corner of the earth, so they can encourage armageddon to come quickly.

  (matthew 24:14 "and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

  what rationale do they have, for keeping track of their hours and literature placements?

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  Bungi Bill

  Why do Jehovah's Witnesses keep track of field service hours?

  -because they cop it if they do not, nothing more, nothing less.

  (In other words, field service reports are a stick with which to bash the Rank & File with).

  Bill.
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  Do you miss the sense of superiority?

  by Diest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is and odd topic but there is a part of me that really misses feeling that i knew more about the world than 99.9% of the people.

  i spent so many years in school being the odd person because of religion.

  i embraced it to some extent.

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  Bungi Bill

  In answer to your question - no.

  i.e. I never ever felt a sense of superiority about what I knew / what I thought I knew.

  Bill
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  How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

  as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

  surely education should come first.

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  Bungi Bill

  I have said this before, but will say it again for the sake of any "newbies" listening here.

  I was prevented from attending university by direct inervention of the elders. Then -- - to compound this, 12 months later, the very same elders made me abandon my apprenticeship that I had just started. Seven years later, I started again as an adult apprentice, only this time I was married, with one dependent child and one other on its way.

  At the end of my apprenticeship, my employer offered to sponsor me through the diploma course. However, my wife of the time strongly objected that "the children needed a father." She was quite correct , of course.

  Now ... I am several months into the Advanced Diploma course.

  I will need this qualification just to retain the position that I have - and which I will need to continue working at for at least the next eight years :

  - being one of that age group who wouldl "never grow old in this system" I have #&ck -all in the way of retirement savings.

  So .... did I follow the WTS direction on education years ago an end up screwed as a consequence -- you're bloody right I did!

  Bill
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  Christadelphians (Christ brothers/Sisters)

  by Rip in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my plan to exit the jw i thought it would be good if i adhere to another faith group, not cultish as the jw but non trinitarian.. this is decided for the sake of my children (two sons)'s spritual safety.

  i researched the internet and in the non trinitarian groups i found these christadelphian.

  any idea about this group?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Just one more group that emerged out of the wreckage of William Miller's failed propheies of 1844.

  Bill
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  Where you the door knocker encourager in your congregation?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be honest i figured until i received some pleasure, enjoyment.

  in waking people up on their day off, there was no way i was going.

  to pressure anyone else to do the same.

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  Bungi Bill

  Lisa Rose,

  Too true!

  The JWs I see in action around here sure look like they are engaged in a "life saving work" - NOT!

  (i) Not by the body language they exhibit as they "pioneer shuffle" up somebody's driveway, making it plain they desperately hope nobody is going to be home. That way, they can put in the appearance of being "out in service, without actually having to speak to anybody!

  (ii) Not by the way they will walk right past - and without speaking to - a person in the street, only to go in and knock on the door of an (often) empty house.

  It is a good thing for Joe Publisher that this "End of the World" the GB insist is going to happen "soon" hasn't eventuated:

  -otherwise they would all get the boot (from the top down) for sounding a very ineffective warning!

  Bill.
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  Where you the door knocker encourager in your congregation?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be honest i figured until i received some pleasure, enjoyment.

  in waking people up on their day off, there was no way i was going.

  to pressure anyone else to do the same.

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  Bungi Bill

  SfPW,

  If it is a lifesaving work, then they ought to start using more effective warning methods than door knocking. A few pointers could be taken from the emergency services around here, from the way in which the recent bushfires were handled:

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  - Bushfire warnings firstly issued by radio and television broadcasts.

  - Then the final evacuation orders issued from the loud hailers on the emergency service vehicles.

  One can only be thankful that the emergency services didn't attempt to rely on door knocking to get bushfire victims out of the way of the flames!

  Of course, if it is not after all a "lifesaving" work, then why bother at all?

  Bill.
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  Where you the door knocker encourager in your congregation?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be honest i figured until i received some pleasure, enjoyment.

  in waking people up on their day off, there was no way i was going.

  to pressure anyone else to do the same.

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  Bungi Bill

  The only time I felt good about field service was when it was over.

  Agreed - and the bloody same for assemblies, too!

  Bill
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  JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

  by Scorpion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

  (a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

  this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

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  Bungi Bill

  I well remember the interest aroused by that remark in the January 1 1989 WT:

  - bloody fools that we all were!

  Bill.